In the Bundesliga, the
black-and-yellow motor didn’t run that smoothly
in the recent past. Against Freiburg, BVB wants
to get back on track. Hear everything about the upcoming
match in your matchday magazine now. We invited some who’s really
important for the club and who likes to speak plainly. Welcome, Michael Zorc.
Hi Norbert. Great to have you here, thanks
for taking the time to come here before the match against Freiburg.
It’s my pleasure. You demanded a reaction from the team
after the match against Werder Bremen. How did the team
do against Prague? What we demanded in particular
was a result, a win, because we didn’t win the last three
matches, including Champions League. We noticed some kind of nervousness
in the media and in our environment. The sporting performance was
not that easy to explain, because we had good
parts time and again. We did well in the first half against Bremen,
when we equalised the goal against us, were in the lead and had the
chance to score the 3:1. But in the end, we
couldn’t win the match, and that happened several
times in the last matches. We did much better now
against Slavia Prague. It was a very intense match where we stayed
strong and scored the 2:0 in the end. And then the players took a shower,
changed clothes and we went home. Heading home fast. You always show complete commitment
for the benefit of the club. Let’s take a look at it. Michael Zorc really lives every
match, he’s always in the front row. He’s always
completely emotional. Even when he has a
microphone on his jacket for the Amazon documentary
“Inside Borussia Dortmund”, he’s not holding back at all. It seems to be a
life-long passion. We can’t imagine Michael
Zorc leaving the bench and sitting on the stands with the
other decision-makers of BVB one day. Can you? I can’t imagine you
in that picture. Well, right now I’m still
feeling very good… …young?
… on the bench. Full of vim and vigor.
It keeps you young. Some of the players are
younger than my own children. So for now it’s fine. But we don’t need to talk about
it, someday it will change. We just saw pictures from the Amazon Video
documentary “Inside Borussia Dortmund”. By the way, you
have to watch that. Episode 4 is available now.
It’s amazing. For the documentary, there was a
microphone on your jacket the whole match. Did you just forget
about that sometime? Ironically, it was the derby. Usually, it would have been a great
match for using the microphone. But somehow, the match wasn’t
that good for that purpose. I don’t wanna say too much, but
some parts had to be cut out because the things I said
couldn’t be used for the film. Yes, I know that. But they usually can’t
cut out what I’m saying. Yes, because you’re live on air. No, it was a nice experience. It took some powers of persuasion
because I’m rather old-fashioned, I don’t like to have that many
cameras around during the match. But the end justifies the means. You definitely put your heart
and soul in it every time. One reason for that is surely
that as a born Dortmund guy, you care about the
club very much. Sporting Director in your hometown,
not many people can say that. In fact, there’s only one other in the
Bundesliga. Do you know who it is? I’d say Baumann, but I
don’t know if it’s true. No, it’s Klemens Hartenbach
from SC Freiburg. Ah, okay. But the Chief Sports Officer is Jochen Saier.
Jochen Saier, yes. Who do you usually talk to? I talk to both, but when it’s about
transfer fees, it’s Jochen Saier. In this job, there are completely
different types of persons. Yes, and there are many different job
titles as well, that varies in every club. But what is important in order to do
that job successfully for a long time? Negotiating skills? Yes, but you get that
in the course of time. You must use your experiences. Also the ones you
made as a player, so you don’t lose
their point of view, even if your own time as a
player is many years ago. Ideally, you don’t repeat
bad mistakes too often. But when you’re doing transfers,
you can never be sure. Of course not. But if your rate is clearly
above 50 %, that’s fine. There are many important things. And of course, you can’t really
study for that job anywhere and then go to a club
and start working. Your experience is the
most important thing. You must learn to stay calm
in stressful situations. Learn to wait, right? Yes, to be patient and to change
many small things for a big result. It’s not about making
great speeches that nobody wants to
hear anyway these days. Now let’s talk about someone who
used to play football not long ago. Not for our club, but he’s a
Sporting Director as well now. Hi Michael, greetings
from Prague. Ich möchte mich noch
einmal dafür bedanken, dass du mir die Gelegenheit gegeben
hast, für Borussia Dortmund zu spielen. Vielen Dank für die
großartige Zusammenarbeit, es hat mir immer
viel Spaß gemacht. Schnitzel. Tomas was one of my favourite
players and transfers. I remember I hadn’t been doing
that job for a long time when I went to Prague,
looking for a defender. I wanted to take a look at Milan
Fukal who went to Hamburg later. But I wasn’t convinced. And then I saw the 19
year-old midfielder and I was very impressed
by his technical skills. I just loved his way of playing. And then we invested a lot
of money to get him here, because Bayern had
been interested too. But fortunately we were quicker. It was a huge transfer and it didn’t take long until we won
the German Championship together, afterwards Jan Koller
joined BVB as well. A great player and great guy. We met time and again, even when
he was playing for Arsenal. And when we were in Prague now, he
came to our hotel and we had coffee. Nice. We talked a little. He’s working as Sporting
Director for Sparta Prague now. It’s a hard time for them, because
Slavia Prague is better right now, but I think he’s
doing a good job. But now let’s get
back to our team. The win was a step in
the right direction. Now we’re playing against
Freiburg in the next match. What do you think
about the team? Currently they’re in third
place with 13 points. I think they’re
very self-confident because they didn’t expect to
be where they are right now. They’re doing a great job, because they
lose their best players time and again, but they always manage
to replace them by transfers or by players
from their own youth teams. Streich is a great coach, but the whole management
team is doing great as well. Fritz Keller is working
for DFB for a reason now. I expect a match that is
similar to the one in Prague. Freiburg is very strong at running and
putting pressure on the opponent. It will be a hard piece of work for us,
but it would be great to win the match. Michael knows how to win in Freiburg,
as the following pictures show. And you can comment
on them if you want. Oh, there are pictures?
Yes. Black and white or coloured?
Colour TV. Colour TV. Schmadtke as goalie, right? Paulo.
Paulo Sousa, right. Did you decide where
to shoot beforehand? When it was Paulo Sousa, it was
in the late 90s, maybe 96/97. I had done so many
penalties at that time, also against the
opponents’ goalies, so I often didn’t
know where to shoot because I had played against all the goalies then.
A luxury problem! In the end I decided to take the center.
And that was okay then. The match was from March
97 and it ended with 2:1. It was one of 53
successful penalties. Incredible. Some time ago. The older ones will remember.
Fortunately you said that. It’s the same with you. You refuse
to believe it, but it’s true. It’s even older.
Even older. Back then, we always
did well in Freiburg. We haven’t been beaten
there for 09 years now. You can enjoy the greatest of our goals from
that time in our social media channels. Recently, you criticised the team
sometimes, but also the media. What kind of criticism
is justifiable? Mainly thanks to the last season, we’re in a position
where we’ve got something to lose right now. And if there’s a match like
the one against Union Berlin, where you lose against a new team in the
Bundesliga and it’s not undeserved, we as a team have to
face that criticism. It’s okay to criticise individual
players as well if they had a bad day. But it’s important not to
exceed certain limits. During the last weeks, I
felt that individual players like Marco for example
were attacked very hard. Certain media demanded to give the
captain’s role to someone else. That’s nonsense. I think in that case, it’s not
only our right as a club, but also our duty to
protect our players and tell the public
that it’s enough now. At that moment, it felt like we
had missed all our season goals already at the end of September. And I think the limits were
definitely exceeded in that case. Marco answered the question of
mentality a little grumpily. Apart from the mentality topic, is there a
question you don’t like to answer anymore? What was the reason?
What was the reason? You’re very emotional yourself and you often hear that question
directly after the match. Maybe you know it but you don’t
want to tell anything immediately and that’s why this question
is completely unnecessary. What was the reason,
what was the reason? You always wonder. Yes, you always wonder
what the reason was. We can’t explain that today. Now we’re gonna do something I’ve
been looking forward to all day. Goal or no goal. You’re still doing that?
We’re doing that again. Again, okay. By popular request? Yes, millions of fans
wanted the game back. There are three scenes,
two from our time. Usually you’re in there.
Well, yes. Okay, goal. Let’s see. No, wait. I count down 3, 2, 1.
3, 2, 1? Yes, and then we
both show our cards. Ah, at the same time.
Yes. I can’t remember that.
He never scored. I don’t know.
Well, he could score. 3… 2… 1… That was obvious. Yes, right. Otherwise we
would have celebrated him. 3… 2… 1… What?
What was that? You were too fast. Obvious. That’s not fair. Why?
I want VAR. Why?
That’s not fair. Come on, next one! They wouldn’t send us
that if he didn’t score. The last two were no goals.
Oh. 3… 2… 1… He’s unfair, did you see that? 2:0, Norbert. No, it was no goal.
You clearly lost. We take a look at the very
sad intermediate result. 9:13, we haven’t seen that for 3 years.
Incredible. Now I’m even losing against
the Sporting Director. I gladly accept your
congratulations, Nobby. Thanks. I didn’t think it
would be that easy. Deserved win, I
couldn’t make it. But next week I’ll
start catching up. Or as the masons say in the
song, we’ll start tomorrow. We’ll start tomorrow. The great picture from last week with Mats
Hummels can be purchased by auction now, and next week we’ll have
the picture with Michael. That’s it for today. Please cross your fingers,
we’ll hopefully win the match. Cross your fingers no
matter where you are. See you soon. Bye, yours Nobby and Michael Bye.